Atlantis, so would they say that they can save themselves? I guess if they teach that they must do works to save, then they of course teach they are their own saviour...
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Who is the Saviour?
by JW Answers inthis is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.
the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".
therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.
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Who is the Saviour?
by JW Answers inthis is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.
the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".
therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.
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It's not a committee, it's One God IN three persons.
I can defend - it's you who gets uptight because I quote from the word of God.
Anyways, as mentioned, this is a Bible study for those who are interested. If you are so against God Cofty then why speak out against someone in whom you don't believe exists?
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Who is the Saviour?
by JW Answers inthis is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.
the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".
therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.
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There are three in the Godhead... But of course you will know what I mean by that, because of your background.. 🙂
1 John 5:7 KJV
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. -
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Who is the Saviour?
by JW Answers inthis is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.
the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".
therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.
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In Isaiah God says there is no Saviour beside Him ..
Isaiah 43:11 KJV
I, even I, am the Lord ; and beside me there is no saviour.The NWT states that Jehovah is that Saviour and Jehovah says there is no other Saviour beside Him.
So, how can the Lord Jesus be the Saviour?
When you accept that there are more than one person in the Godhead - you will appreciate that The Lord Jesus is the God of the Old and New Testament.
Jesus and the Father are not the same person, both unique, but the are the same God.
The Jehovah's Witnesses have their minds conditioned to believe that God is one person, this creates confusion towards themselves.
The Bible tells us in Numbers 21 that the Lord God who was and is the Saviour of Israel, chastened Israel because of their murmuring and tempting God.
Paul reminds us in 1 Corinthians 10 that Christ was that Saviour who chastened Israel.
1 Corinthians 10:8-10 KJV
Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. [9] Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. [10] Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. -
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Who is the Saviour?
by JW Answers inthis is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.
the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".
therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.
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This is for those who are interested in Bible study.
The Jehovah's Witnesses claim that ONLY the Father is God, and thus teach He was the Saviour in the Old Testament. The Bible teaches that God says "There is no Saviour beside me". Therefore how is it, that the Lord Jesus Christ is called the Saviour of the world?
The below video teaches this subject. The question remains.. Jehovah's Witnesses, who is YOUR Saviour?
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Firstborn of all Creation - What does it refer too?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe the title given to the lord jesus as 'firstborn' is in reference to himself being created.
however as we study the scriptures we can see that it has a greater meaning than being created..
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Guys,
With due respect. You have complained and called me a coward for doing a hit n run, and not commenting on the subject to hand.
Whilst I have expressed both in video and on here in times past, that I prefer to speak on FB, because it engages in a spiritual conversation, this chat forum is the opposite.
Oh, and John Prestor... You have never once counter argued or discussed Bible with me, and I was asking you questions as well... It seems that I am not the only one who does "hit n runs" and yet, likely, he will get many likes and support, where as it's just jibes towards me... Nice!
There are no Spiritual conversations, only attack attack attack and "mythology" and "the Bible is wrong" and personal jibes...
And you wonder why I chose not to comment before?
At least I can say I have tried, and wanted to speak about this one. However it's pointless if rather than debating on the subject, you say "oh those verses are wrong" and don't provide other verses to support ones argument.
Have a good day guys, I don't want to speak to people who are constant complaining that "God isn't real", "the Bible is false", "it's all mythology"...
My question to you is... If you don't believe in God, and you believe the Bible is false ... Why do you remain in these forums??
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Firstborn of all Creation - What does it refer too?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe the title given to the lord jesus as 'firstborn' is in reference to himself being created.
however as we study the scriptures we can see that it has a greater meaning than being created..
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Yet, as I have again shown in the video, as well as other verses, the Lord Jesus is not a created being, based on that He is God as well. God did not create God. Your idea that The Lord Jesus is created comes from an organisation that do not reverence the Lord Jesus.
You belittle him, and claim He is just a mere created angel.
Hebrews 1:8-10 explains that God never once called any of his angels, His son, furthermore the passage also shows the Father calling His Son, God and Lord.
You are using your own wisdom and understanding here, which is evident. Nothing you have said is based upon the Holy Scriptures.
Micah 5:2 also explains that The Lord Jesus is from Everlasting... And the Lord Jesus also explained that before He died, he was the living One, just as God calls Himself the living One.
The Lord Jesus also refers to Himself as All Powerful and Almighty (Rev 1:7-8).
Can I ask, why do you belittle the Lord Jesus often in your quotes? Why not reverence Him? If you don't do it now, you will be forced to one day... (Phil 2:9-11).
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Firstborn of all Creation - What does it refer too?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe the title given to the lord jesus as 'firstborn' is in reference to himself being created.
however as we study the scriptures we can see that it has a greater meaning than being created..
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Coward? I am back and ready to speak on the post...
Fyi, Throughout my videos, I give links as to where I can chat to others... Seems you don't watch the video to note those links... Sure "I'm the coward"...
Are you ready to ask questions? This shows that I came back in to comment on the questions raised...
Also, I made my apologies in a PM to Cofty, and had a pleasant conversation, so it seems that you are just trying to find justification to abort watching the video, or trying to avoid the subject of the firstborn which I have raised...
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Firstborn of all Creation - What does it refer too?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe the title given to the lord jesus as 'firstborn' is in reference to himself being created.
however as we study the scriptures we can see that it has a greater meaning than being created..
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Publically : I am apologising for any rude comments made above.
Going forward, to answer the subject post. The bible teaches that the Lord Jesus Christ is the first born, showing preeminence over all creation. This has nothing to do with being first created.
Micah 5:2 explains...
"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."
The prophecy indicates that the Lord Jesus is from everlasting, and not a created being.
The bible further explains in Phil 2:9 that the Lord Jesus will be honored and worshipping in a day to come, where EVERY knee will bow down to him. If the Lord Jesus is a created being, then this shows that we will bow down to creation, rather than God, and would invoke idol worship.
This is not the case, as we see from scripture that the Lord Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh.
1 Tim 3:16
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." -
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Firstborn of all Creation - What does it refer too?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe the title given to the lord jesus as 'firstborn' is in reference to himself being created.
however as we study the scriptures we can see that it has a greater meaning than being created..
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I've sent you a PM.